Source: «Le suicide et l’attentat donneraient exactement le même plan de vol»
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INTERVIEW – Pilot locked out of the cockpit, no distress signal Patrick Magisson, A320 pilot, member of SNPL investigator and accident.
It is too early to conclude that the suicide theory and assumptions are possible, such as a terrorist attack.
Le Figaro: According to information from the New York Times, one of the pilot remained locked out of the cockpit during the descent of aircraft.
Is it really completely impossible to open the cockpit door from the outside?
PATRICK MAGISSON: I would like first of all to express my anger in the dissemination of this information, which is not confirmed at this stage by the Office accident investigation.
This leak is unacceptable. And I already foresee the ordeal that will live pilot of families, harassed by journalists seeking to know if they were suicidal.
Getting back to your question, since the attacks of September 11, the cockpit doors are designed to prevent the intrusion of outside elements.
They therefore can not be opened from the inside. On some ultra-modern aircraft, the door is designed to be opened in case of reaction during a defined period of time the driver to be able to take control if you feel unwell.
In the event of cabin depressurization, the door also opens automatically on some aircraft. Some companies also plan to never leave a single pilot in the cockpit. If one of the two must leave the flight deck a crew member takes the place of the absent driver.
It is not possible at this stage to know what the rules were in force on board the A320 Germanwings. Each company keeps this information secret, disseminate outside is too risky.
Le Figaro: The suicide theory pilot seems, at this stage the most likely?
PATRICK MAGISSON: It is far too early to draw such a conclusion, even though we can not exclude it. What we know is that the plane crash was the result of human will.
The design of the aircraft does not allow anything else. What we do not know is why? Yes, there are times when some colleagues chose to commit suicide in flight.
In light aviation, it is a phenomenon that happens very often, in the same way that some commit suicide by car.
It seems unlikely that the crash was the result of a failed emergency landing. In an emergency situation, the driver will attempt to land on a large plot and flat. The terrorist argument is also not excluded.
Then we would have a similar scenario to that of September 11 with a terrorist in aviation. Suicide bombing exactly as would give the same flight plan.
Le Figaro: Are pilots trained to respond to a suicidal colleague?
We train regularly to deal with loss of consciousness or severe illness of the co-pilot, but not suicidal desire. We are trained to manage it, to take his own orders, etc.
But with a colleague who would be suicidal and locked up in the cockpit, our ability to act is much lower. Although the aircraft in which you are browsing is equipped with a satellite phone, no one can take control of the external device;
In this misfortune, this tragedy could perhaps afford to be aware of the need to follow more the psychological status of pilots. We have annual medical visit. However between these two visits much may happen.
The part found on Tuesday the black box, the cockpit voice recorder was, though damaged, but evaluated, able to hear voices and sounds in the cockpit, said the BEA chief Jouty.
But there was still “no explanation” for the cause of the crash. After the second black box, the flight data recorder was further searched feverishly.
According to the French president Hollande the “shell” of the black box has been been found but not the device itself. Previously, there was speculation that the device had been found destroyed.
The basic rule for such a heavy misfortune can until the final clarification of the cause of the crash months, if not years pass. Only within a year the investigating authorities must submit an interim report at least. VIDEO
Transportation safety analyst Mark Rosenker tells CBS News that the report in the New York Times is extraordinary information and needs to be confirmed:
Either what happened and what we are hearing happened or not. but without this type of a leak and type of speculation we need to have the truth and quickly.”
Rosenker says at 38,000 feel the plane would be on auto pilot and opportunity to leave and go to the lavatory.
What systems are in place to make sure this would not happen – that the pilot could not return to the flight deck?
Typically in the U.S. there is a requirement to have two people on the flight deck. We’ve seen the choreography before. The pilot interested in leaving the flight deck will signal to the flight attendant to move a cart in front before the pilot opens the door.
The flight attendant looks through the key hole or has an opportunity to open the door. It is not a requirement in Europe. Although a country may require it.
Not sure what theEuropean Safety Administration is suggesting or the Germans.
SOURCE: Nur ein Pilot bei Absturz im Cockpit – Tritte gegen die Tür?
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NEW YORK TIMES REPORTS: One of the two pilots of the crashed German Wings aircraft left the cockpit before the crash. “The pilot slapped hard against the cockpit door”.
When he could not get back inside, he was trying to break the door reports the New York Times, citing a military official is involved in the voice recorder evaluation.
“The man outside knocks gently on the door but there is no answer,” the man says, according to the newspaper. “
And then he beats stronger against the door, no answer. There is never an answer.”
Why one of the two men left the cockpit, is not yet known, the official continued.
“But it is clear that the other pilot at the end of the flight is alone and the door will not open.”
Co-pilot of the German Wings aircraft was employed by the Lufthansa subsidiary since 2013. The pilot had completed 630 hours of flight time up to the crash, confirmed a Lufthansa spokesman in Frankfurt on Thursday a report by the AFP news agency.
He was educated at the civil aviation school of Lufthansa in Bremen.
Since the terrorist attacks of September 2001, the cockpit doors are locked on scheduled flights. They can only be opened from the inside. In addition, they are reinforced armored.
SECURITY MEASURES: The door has a peephole through which the cockpit crew can see on the outside. Those security measures to deter such as terrorists by the acquisition of the aircraft, flight 4U9525 can be proved fatal. The co-pilot of the crashed in France German Wings machine worked for the airline since September 2013, Lufthansa said a spokeswoman. He has completed 630 hours of flight time. Before hiring the man was at the Pilot School Lufthansa, the parent company of German Wings, trained in Bremen to the pilot.
Lufthansa spokeswoman confirmed FOCUS Online, that there is a code that allows the cockpit door was open from the outside. Nevertheless, the cockpit crew must confirm a video system still inside that opens the door. Whether there is an emergency system, for example, when both pilots are powerless to they would not comment.
Manual of the A320 shows: Door is opened with numerical code from the outside. It is has three electric bolts. In the normal state, the door is locked. If anyone wants enter the flight deck from the outside, the crew can unlock the door manually. The cabin crew are able to open the door with a two to seven digit code programmed by the airline.
Airbus Manual jets of the type A318 / 319/320/321 aircraft crews of Royal Jordanian Airline. There is a mechanical emergency mechanism, the crew in the cockpit can open the door. There is an extra tab that complete the, fails one of the electric bolt.
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Manual A320 This diagram shows the A320 cockpit door:
“Every pilot that you ask will say: You can never leave a person not alone in the cockpit. Nobody does that.” Glen Winn, a flight expert at the University of Southern California, said in an interview with the Los Angeles Times.
Germanwings 4U 9525 loss stuns Europe
BY JADE GRANDLIN DE EPREVIER
SOURCE: La périlleuse mission des secours
TRANSLATION: MillennialMonitor.com
How will emergency crews reach the Germanwings crash site – in a location renowned inaccessible?
The crash zone of the Airbus A320 Germanwings is deemed inaccessible. Specialized rescue teams should rappel down to secure the area, an operation that can be dangerous.
The Airbus A320 crashed at 1500 m altitude in the Valley of the White on one side of the mountain of the Three Bishoprics opposite the ski area of Val d’Allos.
A very steep face.
“This is a very mountainous region, very snowy wilderness site oscillating between 2,000 and 3,000 meters,” do we representative in a town hall.
An owner of B & B in the municipality of Méloans said: “You have from my home, a half-hour drive and five-hour walk to reach it. Few people have heard something because it is an uninhabited area. It is very isolated. “
“It is only accessible by air,” said AFP Lieutenant Colonel gendarmerie in Seyne John Paul BLOIN. “There are very few roads, it is very complicated to move on foot.”
Relief will have to take the air. A helicopter was chartered. Firefighters, police and medical teams should have the support of the army and air forces. The specialized gendarmes in air accidents Velizy-Villacoublay search section were to arrive on the area in the afternoon, AFP reported.
While the authorities confirm that there are no survivors, rescue mission on site will delineate the crash zone and secure.
“It can take several hours,” says PGHM of Briançon. The area would be one to two acres. Relief aid must stabilize the debris because if they drop, they could hurt teams. A task made more complex that “progress is needed between the debris without really touching, to avoid penalizing the subsequent work of the investigators.”
Lieutenant Colonel Jean-Paul BLOIN agrees: “there is a lot of scattered debris, it will be extremely difficult to meet the elements and operate. The area is very backward, sidehill. ” There could be “some large debris, perhaps half a dozen.”
What we know of the crash of the A320 at the end of day
BY WILLIAM PLUMBER / AFP / REUTERS /AP
SOURCE: Ce que nous savons du crash de l’A320 en cette fin de journée
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Après le crash ce mardi matin dans les Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, les premiers éléments émergent : une boîte noire a été retrouvée, la chute de l’avion a duré 8 minutes et aucune hypothèse n’est pour l’heure écartée.
After the crash Tuesday morning in the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, the first elements emerge: a black box has been found.
The plane crash lasted 8 minutes and no assumption is for the time ruled out.
• The Airbus A320 (flight 4U9525) disappeared from radar around 11:20 Tuesday morning when he was flying over the massive “three bishoprics” in the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. It is a plane of Germanwings company, which was on route Barcelona-Düsseldorf.
One hundred and forty-four passengers were on board and six crew members. The plane took off “at Barcelona 10:35 until reaching an altitude of 38,000 feet.
But then he began to lose altitude, for 8 minutes. “The contact was lost at 10:53, while the aircraft was at a height of 6,000 feet (less than 2000 meters). “Then it crashed,” said Tuesday afternoon the head of Germanwings.
• “The crew did not issue a distress call. This is the air traffic control that has decided to declare the aircraft in distress because he had no contact with the crew and the aircraft, “said the General Directorate of Civil Aviation.
The captain had yet more than 10 years of experience and more than 6,000 flying hours. The weather conditions were very quiet at the time of the crash.But the unit had previously gone through a volatile area in the Mediterranean.”
At this stage, no assumption of course can not be ruled out, “said Manuel Valls before the National Assembly.
• A black box was found in the late afternoon. It has yet not been examined but all hopes rest on it to reveal what caused the tragedy. It will be transmitted to investigative services.
The Investigation and Analysis Bureau, responsible for technical investigations during aircraft accidents, opened an investigation.
• “The conditions of the accident suggests that there would be no survivors,” said shortly after the announcement of the crash in the late morning Francois Hollande. Information confirmed later by Alain Vidal, Secretary of State for Transport.
On-site during the afternoon, the Minister of the Interior Bernard Cazeneuve said there was little hope of finding survivors.
Forty-five passengers of Spanish nationality, according to the government of Mariano Rajoy. The other would be Turkish and German nationality.
• The aircraft debris were found in the massive “three bishoprics” in a horseshoe area between the towns of Seyne-les-Alpes, Meolans Revel and Foux d’Allos.
This is a very isolated mountainous, snow at this time of the year, which oscillates between 2000 and 3000 meters. This area is inaccessible for land vehicles.
According to France 3 Côte d’Azur, specialized gendarmes in mountain rescue left on foot at the scene of the crash. Many helicopters have also been dispatched.
“The debris is scattered over an area of about one hectare, very difficult to access,” said Lt. Col. Bloy, gendarmerie Hyères in the Var, the site Haute-Provence Info. “There are a dozen large debris, the rest is very fragmented,” he added.
The evacuation of the bodies could take several days. Weather conditions and at night should complicate research. Snowfall is expected in the coming hours from 2000 meters.
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Le Figaro: The location where crashed Tuesday an Airbus A320 of the German airline Germanwings in thein the Valley of the White between Digne and Barcelonnette (Alpes-de-Haute-Provence)
The plane crashed at 1500 m altitude, under the head of the massif of Estrop in the valley of the White, far from any village.
A chapel was installed in Seyne-les-Alpes, a neighboring town. September helicopters, two Puma gendarmerie and five Dragon civil security were dispatched to the area of the accident, where an air coordinator was set up to coordinate airborne means.
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